@malwaretech
Really? I hadn't heard of any anti-semitic or socialist posts from him. What exactly did he say that was nazi related?
@jlcrawf @malwaretech socialism isn't Naziism please don't make me explain this to you
@Leroy @malwaretech
Sure, explain to me how the National Socialists weren't "real" socialists.
here's og joseph goebbels rubbing it in your fucking face
https://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/haken32.htm
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
Having now read the entire section titled Why we are socialists? You have dobe nothing to convince me that they were not socialist.
Let me help you, a good argument would look like, the tenets of socialism are ....., but the nazis believe ..... and they fail at socialism because ....
no you did not
it's very explicit about class peace, racial superiority and ultranationalism
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
In why we are socialist section, he explains why he ties nationalism to socialism. He does not believe that it would work without it. That does not disqualify him from being a socialist, nor does it imply that he is lying about socialism to gain followers.
Again, the simplest way to show that nazis were not socialist would be to lay out the tenets of socialism vs the tenets of nazism and show how nazism fails.
no he does not, he explains that what he calls socialism has nothing whatsoever to do with socialism, by very explicitly grounding it in a class peace, the polar opposite of the socialist 'no war but class war'
@troglodyt @Leroy @malwaretech
See, that is an example of what I am looking for. Differences between nazis and socialists.
Although, if I understood what you wrote correctly, it seems that you are trying to make the point that socialists are calling for class warfare, whereas nazis want peace between the classes.
@jlcrawf @troglodyt @malwaretech peace between classes means peace with the oppressor, which is a one way street
@Leroy @troglodyt @malwaretech
That garbage aside, the only expalanation anyone has come up with for how nazis are not "real" socialists, is that nazis want peace between classes while socialists want class warfare.
If that is the only difference, that is not enough to convince me that they were not "real" socialists.
@jlcrawf @troglodyt @malwaretech and again, Nazis don't want peace between classes, they want to be the ruling class and subjugate the other classes. The supposed peace they have is enforced at the end of a gun and the entire system is held up on the backs of the labor those guns are pointed at
@Leroy @troglodyt @malwaretech
I am not the one that claimed that nazis wanted peace between classes, that was the argument given in this thread.
What you just descibed though sounds just like North Korea, Venezuala, China, and the old USSR. So again, hiw does this make the nazis any different?
