#Jolla10years celebration in #Helsinki on October 28! Details and registration: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/join-our-10-year-celebration-in-helsinki-on-28th-october/8686

Photos from the #Berlin event by #Jolla (including this one) in this album: https://www.facebook.com/media/set?vanity=jollaofficial&set=a.4655333791184794

My photos in this twitter thread: https://twitter.com/cybette/status/1448691127251578886

#SailfishOS

@cybette not that i havent been using official sailfish X in USA hehehehe glad to see them acknowledge that people have been using it so lets get it there officially

@jameshjacksonjr

oh yes definitely. it's great that they see the demand and acknowledge that. when people don't have to jump through so many hoops to try out #SailfishX it'll help both the community and #Jolla!

@cybette i agree no hoops and official support i wonder what they will offer ports for device wise in the USA as soon as jolla announced USA support sony recently announced it will only make its pro phones for the USA market with USA bands the xperia 10ii and xperia 10iii models are not sold in the USA with USA bands for example i wonder if jolla knows this or not https://electronics.sony.com/c/mobile only those 5 models are sold in the USA

@cybette so finaly SFOS is officially in USA what do we do for phones im curious to see what jolla has to say about that

@jameshjacksonjr @cybette - I would suggest the new #pinephonepro.

@vattuvarg @cybette i dont think jolla makes official sailfish X ports for any device other than sony devices

@jameshjacksonjr @cybette - I've noticed.

All the other linux on mobile systems released a #pinephone community edition except #sailfishosOS.

@vattuvarg @jameshjacksonjr

Each device port incurs a substantial sum of investment (money, people, time). With focus away from devices over the past few years, and new direction in the automotive industry, I don't see Jolla officially supporting non-Sony devices anytime soon.

I hope to be proven wrong, of course.

@cybette @vattuvarg i agree so what do you think we will do for devices or do you feel we will have to just import a xperia 10ii or xperia 10iii from europe and hope it has all the bands. i honestly feel jolla simply just thought all sony devices were sold in all markets when they are not so i think its just a simple mistake, and ill prob just import a device from europe and see if it has all the bands ill need for USA usage

@jameshjacksonjr @vattuvarg

it's complicated for sure. it's not just every country using slightly different bands, but even different operators within a country can have different requirements. so even if a phone "works in the US" does it mean for all the operators or only some? I'm sure Jolla tried to take that into consideration, but e.g. even the "global" edition of the Xperias do not have all of the bands: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/sony-xperia-10-ii

For Xperia 10 III you won't get 5G: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/US/sony-xperia-10-iii

@jameshjacksonjr @vattuvarg

especially when the market in the US is very operator-driven, if the phone manufacturer can't get a contract/agreement with the operators, they don't get any help in promoting the devices and they lose major distribution channels. on top of that when we have to purchase the device and OS separately, there's just too many permutations to make sure that everyone is covered. I'm sure these devices are not available in all EU countries either so some will need to import

@cybette @vattuvarg like for instance when you go to the sony usa mobile store those are 4 of the 5 devices they sell to our market and are those devices in european market thats what i mean