If I have to buy a modern car (which means any EV unless conversion of an old one), I want one built with free or libre open source software. How long will I have to wait?

@hehemrin I'm sure that if you mean open source in the way Chromebooks/Androids are, then this is already a thing. Too tired to look for links right now but I'm sure there us an automotive linux foundation, and a lot of the control systems, if not infotainment stuff is running on a form linux.

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@bluegeeko I think you may think of this open source project I have heard about: automotivelinux.org/ Yes, i's positive, and I haven't looked into its details. But I still have some doubts how far the car owners freedom will become, not at least when it comes to telemetry/surveillance. But worth to have an eye on and learn more about.

@hehemrin yeah, I think that was it - linux everywhere, freedom not so much...

In an industry as heavily regulated as the automotive one is (esp when/if self driving cars become a thing), there will be very little chance of people having control of their vehicles in that way.

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