I don't understand why people shit on :ubuntu:#Ubuntu for so many things. It's still likely the best desktop #Linux experience that you can get right now. Every other distro I've tried either sticks way too hard to the #FOSS philosophy (to the point of degrading the experience), doesn't ship with sane defaults, or is maintained by a small team that doesn't catch many of the bugs that need fixing before a stable release.

From what I can gather (based on some very intense "research" on Reddit), most people are put off by snaps. And, like, I get it. But snaps have a very well defined purpose, and if you don't like them, you can remove them and use something else. It's Linux. Not only will the average person not care, they probably won't need to know what a snap is at all to properly use the OS.

Meanwhile, hardware support is fantastic, the out of box experience is second to none, the design team has done some absolutely incredible work to the point where I think Yaru beats almost everything else (with the exception of elementary) and it comes with both a driver installation tool (if it's even needed) and a software update/upgrade tool (which is so, so incredibly useful).

I've mostly been using :fedora:​ Fedora Silverblue because image-based updates and upgrades are far more reliable than their package-based counterparts. But as soon as Ubuntu has a desktop operating system that works similarly, that's likely what I'll be using.

@zak Glad you have found your distro! I am relatively new to Linux (but much longer time in plans). I have landed differently, for time being. My 1st choice is Mint (Cinnamon, Xfce on low spec) with Debian Xfce as 2nd. Tested a couple more. I do not rule out I change to something else one day. This is my private life. Can't help but tell about this podcast: distrohoppersdigest.blogspot.c

@hehemrin Mint is a great choice. My only issue with it (and this is very petty) is that I find it boring. It doesn't really push the boundaries of the latest tech in Linux. Fedora does that really well. Ubuntu, I find, provides a balance in stability and new tech. Mint is usually far behind, but because it is, it's extremely consistent and stable. It's probably one of my top picks to install on a relative's old device.

Debian I don't use because it doesn't provide an easy version to version upgrade path without modifying source files, which I just don't love.

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@zak Debian is as Volvo cars (used to be); not the funniest but very robust and reliable, like a tractor. Mint is a couple of steps funnier. I am sure you are right, there are other that use edge tech. For time being, I stay on not top modern devices, but should be good enough with margin for my needs incl photo editing.

@hehemrin In that case, those are two excellent choices.

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