Can someone please verify if praying at home is illegal in Scotland? I don't know if I should believe it. On one hand, these European governments are comprised of retards. On the other hand, even the dumbest of retards would know that kind of law in unenforceable.
@xianc78 I'm not in Scotland but another part of Europe but I think I can anyway safely confirm that what you heard is bullshit. The place where you found that must have a really twisted view of Europe.
Of course people do what they want in their own home, many are religious and then of course they pray if they feel like it.
Why would anyone want to make that illegal anyway?
(There can maybe be laws around what religious things are allowed in schools, I don't know how that is in Scotland.)
@eliasr JD Vance made that claim. I took that claim with healthy skepticism because I know that even the "right" will exaggerate or make up stuff. But then, I was told it was partially true because Scotland has "buffer zones" which prohibit praying in a certain vicinity around an abortion clinic and that vicinity could extent to private property outside of the clinic's property (e.g someone's home).
@xianc78 aha, seems like it's about this then: https://www.gov.scot/publications/abortion-services-safe-access-zones/
It says "any public areas within 200 metres of the boundary of the grounds (if there are any, or from the premises if not)"
It's entirely possible that those rules are stupid, but anyway they are rules about public areas and not about restricting what anyone does in their own home.
+bonifartius ๐ผ๐
@bonifartius @eliasr @xianc78 just based on how the law is written it's just very stupid but in theory you could technically do this and put the chances of this happening is extremely rare and almost non-existent but technically possible and the most abstract sense.
@Mr_NutterButter @bonifartius @eliasr I could see an extreme case where it involves a historic church.
@xianc78 @Mr_NutterButter @bonifartius it's interesting how both sides feel they are under attack.
I guess this issue started with politically "right-wing" folks deciding that they want to make abortion illegal. When they fail at that they instead resort to shouting at people outside abortion clinics under pretext of "praying".
Then a "buffer zone" thing is added to try to protect those who need to have an abortion.
Then right-wing folks think that's an attack on *them* and their churches? ๐
@eliasr @xianc78 @Mr_NutterButter if they were physically preventing people from going to these clinics it would be unjust. if someone wants an abortion they should be able to get it. just as people should be able to protest this in a civilized manner.
the problem with these laws is that any law that can be abused, will be. it specifically states that private property isn't exempted. pray "too loud" and someone can sue. maybe even the existence of a church in the vicinity is enough to be considered a problem.