@Herbivore Yup, that's really crazy. Group 1 is the stuff that is carcinogenic beyond any doubt. Asbestos, Plutonium, ionizing radiation...
This is why we need to have warning labels on processed meat, like we have on cigarettes.
@doctor_zoidberg @Herbivore noisy warning labels aren't helpful.
As I stated in an other reply. Their exist no reason to believe that processed meat is a meaningful cancer risk, to most consumers.
@ekg @Herbivore International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) disagrees with you and those people are scientists. Real scientists, not funded by any industry. Processed meat is carcinogenic beyond any doubt.
The fact that not everyone will get cancer is meaningless, there are some smokers who never get cancer.
@doctor_zoidberg @Herbivore well clearly the FDA and sister agencies in developed countries agree with me. If they believed it was a meaningful risk to most consumers they would have baned the sale. Their exist a reason why everything else on your list is heavily restricted in its sale.
With that said I do avoid nitrate salt when I buy food and prefer alternatives without. But I don't think it's helpful to warn consumers about minor risks.
@ekg @Herbivore Ah, yes, the impartial FDA, USDA and similar, where half of the people are appointed by the industries.
IARC publishes World Cancer Report, it's an overview of all of the scientific research on cancer, try reading it.
@doctor_zoidberg @Herbivore I did, admittedly a few years ago. And if I don't remember wrong the does respons was well over 50g a day. Meaning to get a measurable risk increase you would have to eat a heavy bacon breakfast everyday, or equivalent.
And I want to be clear a measurable increase risk for some cancers isn't a meaningful risk for negative health outcomes.
You could imagine a less rich diet having other negative outcomes.
@ekg @Herbivore Well, everything has a dose response. You could take arsenic in small amounts, but why would you?
And 50 grams is not a "large" breakfast, 50 grams is about half the size of cigarette pack.
@doctor_zoidberg @Herbivore if 50g a day is not a heavy breakfast for you, I understand your concerns more. Personally I would only eat that large a portion of processed/red meat on occasionally.
Most food products come with health risks, many more sever then cancer. If I don't remember wrong processed/red meat primarily increases the risk for bowl cancer, which is very treatable.
@doctor_zoidberg @Herbivore I wanna be clear were I am coming from
The meat industry in Sweden recommend that swedes should eat on average 40kg a year, a bit over 50g a day, of all meats. Swedes eat about twice that on average
Americans eat about four times that number
This recommendation is based on what they can produce sustainably, and Swedish condition is well suited for meat production
The concern about health is overshadowed by environmental concerns
