@GossiTheDog what does "Xbox One thinking" mean in this context? (I don't really follow console stuff, beyond vaguely recalling that the PS4 sold better, so I don't have a frame of reference)

@gsuberland @GossiTheDog the original xbox one was packaged with the kinect, and they had some insane online DRM for games. They changed the first one soon after lunch, the second one before.

@ekg @GossiTheDog ah, so the point is that MS were focused on fad stuff that customers don't care about, and were out of touch with user sentiment?

@gsuberland @GossiTheDog I believe so.

This was right after the insane success of the Wii so everyone wanted some kind motion control gimmick.

The DRM thing is harder to read, but a lot of publishers had started to complain about second hand games because of the increasing costs of post lunch services. This was later solved with annual releases, online passes, and insane gambling mechanics.

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@gsuberland @GossiTheDog "solved" is a strong word, and I forgot to mention xbox live and PlayStation plus.

I am also aware that use of the word "insane" can seem insensitive to some, but I use it in the "original" meaning when I was learning English "not contained by reason".

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