@GossiTheDog what does "Xbox One thinking" mean in this context? (I don't really follow console stuff, beyond vaguely recalling that the PS4 sold better, so I don't have a frame of reference)
@gsuberland @GossiTheDog the original xbox one was packaged with the kinect, and they had some insane online DRM for games. They changed the first one soon after lunch, the second one before.
@gsuberland @GossiTheDog I believe so.
This was right after the insane success of the Wii so everyone wanted some kind motion control gimmick.
The DRM thing is harder to read, but a lot of publishers had started to complain about second hand games because of the increasing costs of post lunch services. This was later solved with annual releases, online passes, and insane gambling mechanics.
@gsuberland @GossiTheDog "solved" is a strong word, and I forgot to mention xbox live and PlayStation plus.
I am also aware that use of the word "insane" can seem insensitive to some, but I use it in the "original" meaning when I was learning English "not contained by reason".
@ekg @gsuberland @GossiTheDog I think it’s more that they had a bunch of data saying everyone wanted to watch TV so they made that particular generation focused on it to start with at the expense of the core Xbox business (games), which was in reality a terrible mistake they’re still recovering from to this day
@ninkosan @gsuberland @GossiTheDog yeah, you probably right. I thought I was following that saga pretty closely but that hole hdmi pass through set top box replacement thing completely passed my mind.
@ninkosan @ekg @GossiTheDog ironically, I bought an Xbox One S for the sole reason that it was the cheapest way to watch UHD BluRays.
@gsuberland @ninkosan @GossiTheDog it took me a second to come over the fact that the s model is without an BluRay drive, but that's only true for the xbox series.
@ekg @GossiTheDog ah, so the point is that MS were focused on fad stuff that customers don't care about, and were out of touch with user sentiment?