I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

@Gina Yes! Still looking forward to the day when I can install a Linux or BSD distro on *any* phone without any hassle

@simonjust @Gina You can't do that with *any* mobile OS, open or not, and you absolutely certainly still won't for a good while. It's not a good goal to target.

You can already use it on specific well-supported devices, or work on supporting other specific devices well. That's how you can make a tangible difference today.

@dos @Gina

Yes, I've already liberated several phones (OnePlus One w/Ubuntu Touch says "hi!" 😀)

@simonjust @Gina Now make it drop the Halium layer and liberation will be complete:)

@dos @Gina I thought Halium was part of the solution to the lack of standardisation on the ARM platform?

@simonjust @Gina Not really? It just tucks it under the carpet to be dealt with by Android.

@dos @Gina I see - like some sort of glue layer..

I like what they're trying to do but they're always going to play catch-up to whatever is happening on the Android platform. We need proper open hardware

@simonjust @Gina There are devices out there that are functional without relying on Android. I've been using them as my main phones for the last ~18 years (first Neo Freerunner, then Nokia N900, now Librem 5). Other people are currently using PinePhones, OnePlus 6/6T, Pocophone F1, Pixel 3a and a few others.

Truth be told, for quite a while even with laptops you had to put some effort before going shopping to ensure you'll have a good experience with GNU/Linux.