**Drew DeVault** @sir@cmpwn.com · Nov 14, 2019, 02:12

**Drew DeVault** @sir@cmpwn.com · Nov 14, 2019, 02:12

Drew DeVault @sir@cmpwn.com

Nov 14, 2019, 02:12

Drew DeVault @sir@cmpwn.com

How should we know when AI is advanced enough to afford it basic human rights?

I have my own opinion but I'm curious about other's thoughts.

**Bob Ham** @rah@librem.one · Nov 14, 2019, 15:13

**Bob Ham** @rah@librem.one · Nov 14, 2019, 15:13

Nov 14, 2019, 15:13

Bob Ham @rah@librem.one

@sir You're thinking about this all wrong. If a thing is something that we humans "afford" rights to then it isn't worthy of human rights. The point at which it becomes worthy of "human" rights is the point at which it stops giving a fuck about what we are willing to "afford" it and does its own thing regardless. (1/2)

**penguin42** @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk · Nov 14, 2019, 17:02

**penguin42** @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk · Nov 14, 2019, 17:02

Nov 14, 2019, 17:02

penguin42 @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk

@rah @sir a reasonable argument until you see what we've done to our fellow humans in the past to stop them having any rights. or to put it another way, when the ai starts trying to do it's own thing - at what point morally should we let it.

**Bob Ham** @rah@librem.one · 2019-11-15T09:33:07Z

Bob Ham @rah@librem.one

@penguin42 @sir What do you mean "in the past"? You think you have rights now? LOL

Again I point to George Carlin's astute study of the issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4

Nov 15, 2019, 09:33 · Librem Social · · ·

**penguin42** @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk · Nov 15, 2019, 11:44

**penguin42** @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk · Nov 15, 2019, 11:44

Nov 15, 2019, 11:44

penguin42 @penguin42@mastodon.org.uk

@rah @sir Well I don't think I'm doing too badly - I've not got a ball and chain around my legs, I'm not worried that the government is out to kill me, and that's even after watching a video like that! It could be a lot worse.