**Chris (moving to jade.moe)** @brainblasted@social.libre.fi · May 31, 2019, 20:16

**Chris (moving to jade.moe)** @brainblasted@social.libre.fi · May 31, 2019, 20:16

Chris (moving to jade.moe) @brainblasted@social.libre.fi

May 31, 2019, 20:16

Chris (moving to jade.moe) @brainblasted@social.libre.fi

@jhol @bob @starwall @tom79 @dirb

free speech advocates,

Who advocate for the free speech of nazis

classical liberals

Who repeat fascist/white nationalist propaganda

Christians, conservatives, and edgy boi Internet memesters.

Christians that espouse bigoted views and want agency ripped away from non-christians. Conservatives that support policies that marginalize PoC and LGBT+ people. “memesters” that perpetuate propaganda and hate.

They are all part of the same system of harm.

**Joel Holdsworth** @jhol@mstdn.io · May 31, 2019, 20:25

**Joel Holdsworth** @jhol@mstdn.io · May 31, 2019, 20:25

May 31, 2019, 20:25

Joel Holdsworth @jhol@mstdn.io

@brainblasted

Yes I do advocate for free speech for everyone... even ideas I hate.

The real white nationalists have ridiculous ideas that English liberals such as myself can easily expose as laughable.

Just read about what happened when UK's BNP party got a platform on the BBC - the party was gaining strength, until people got to hear their silly ideas

It's when you silence them that their ideas take on a mystique that they dont deserve.

@dirb @tom79 @starwall @bob

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · May 31, 2019, 20:29

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · May 31, 2019, 20:29

May 31, 2019, 20:29

Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅ @bob@soc.freedombone.net

@jhol No. This is just erroneous.

**Bob Ham** @rah@librem.one · 2019-05-31T22:33:24Z

Bob Ham @rah@librem.one

@bob @jhol I seem to recall the BNP did fall apart somewhat after Nick Griffen's appearance on Question Time.

May 31, 2019, 22:33 · Tusky · · ·

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · May 31, 2019, 22:36

**Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅** @bob@soc.freedombone.net · May 31, 2019, 22:36

May 31, 2019, 22:36

Bob Mottram 🔧 ☕ ✅ @bob@soc.freedombone.net

@rah @jhol I think that happened not because of any counterspeech but because of internal battles

**Bob Ham** @rah@librem.one · May 31, 2019, 23:26

**Bob Ham** @rah@librem.one · May 31, 2019, 23:26

May 31, 2019, 23:26

Bob Ham @rah@librem.one

@bob @jhol Yes, that's what I recall too but the internal battles were because Nick Griffen was destroyed on Question Time and the whole country was like "holy crap, those BNP people are really fucked up!" :-)