@rbreich For what it's worth, I have been trying to convince my father and brother. It is fruitless, exhausting, and emotionally draining. For instance, in response to a message about Renee Good, one response was that local ICE protests disrupted access to a bakery, and he was more concerned about their lost sales and all the harm the protesters cause are causing. They are so mired in AI-fakery and propaganda that the actual truth is now completely inaccessible to them.