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i for sure feel like a huge idiot now for ever recommending grapheneos to others, and i really don't know what i'm supposed to do now about my privacy except throw my phone into a river and walk into a forest. i don't know how many more bad news i can take, i just really wish you hadnt joined the llm bozo parade

@ludonaut We spend hundred dollars per month on it and you're claiming we're destroying the world. We disagree with the premise in the first place but even if we did agree, it's such a disproportionate response.

How is it that this is such a big deal to you but you're not attacking everyone you know who eats meat, drives a car, travels by airplane and other wasteful things. Somehow we are the problem for using less resources on this than we've used for plenty of far less useful things.

@ludonaut You would probably be fine with us running a 256 core machine 24/7 doing fuzzing but yet us paying hundreds of dollars to get far more useful results is somehow us destroying the environment.

We do not understand where you're coming from or why you're so incredibly angry with us. It's not justified and does not make sense.

Many of the people attacking us travel around the world to conferences on airplanes, drive to work and probably have the carbon footprint of half our team or more.

@GrapheneOS @ludonaut Yeah sorry but no, even running god knows how many fuzzers nonstop will not come close to the power usage of any serious LLM. And that's just talking about inference, not even training and crawling. Even so, power use is far from the only environmental concern, and environmental concerns are from the only AI concerns people have. And you know that.

@engideer @ludonaut That's incredibly far from reality.

If we were using it for much more then we could buy a bunch of hardware and run open weight Chinese models locally. The reason we're not is because it's already being done by others.

It would be a higher priority if we were the ones responsible for dealing with the overall Linux kernel, AOSP and Chromium code getting security issues patched but we aren't. It makes more sense to spend our time and money on things not already being done.

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Why give these people the time of day?

Get off of Mastodon. This place is extremely toxic. Nostr likes GrapheneOS.

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