Just heard about Hive Social. Why would people go to yet another proprietary closed source platform? Have they learned nothing?
@chhopsky Might be a step more to search for what server to join people in other services, but it's the same login sign up web and mobile experience.
@ellabellafull here's a great example. a friend links me to a post on here. it's on mastodon.social. i go to click to Like it, and i can't - it asks me to sign in. i'm confused, i go back to my mastodon.gamedev.place bit and i'm definitely logged in. why hasn't my token followed me? maybe it needs me to remote auth. i try to log in but it definitely wants me to log into a mastodon.social account. it was later explained to me i needed to paste that post address into my instance search
@ellabellafull we understand that instances are separate and how federation works but there's grey around the edges of the expected interactions. it's insane to me that the *expected* behavior to be able to interact with a post involves going home, searching for it, then going again. i understand why those things cant happen but this is an expectation-breaking behavior
anyway. decentralization: complicated, difficult. if it were easy to do well, someone would have by now
@chhopsky is there a privacy setting turned on? If I open my posts in a browser, without login session, it displays. Hmmm.
Test: https://social.librem.one/@ellabellafull/109381847025887327
Do different instances have different policies that would prevent URLs from working?
@ellabellafull it displays, but i can't interact, because the remote instance doesn't have any way to trace back to my home instance to generate the activity
i'd have to write a chrome plugin to redirect engagement buttons to my home instance, to then send them. which is pretty wack and technically maybe a XSS attack
@ellabellafull so if i copy paste that URL into a new tab, and i try to Like it, it pops up a new window asking me for my home address. on mastodon.social this didnt happen, it just asked me to log in or create an account
@chhopsky when I get that on other people's posts, I only have to provide my @name@server and it works if my login session is active. I don't have to relog.
Maybe Librem.one added some quality of life there.
@chhopsky do you know if innovations/changes to the main code branch happens a lot on instances?
@ellabellafull no idea. but if i understand sysadmins and optional patching, i imagine the fediverse is fairly diverse in its software versions
i also don't want to 'why dont the devs just' because if there was an easy fix for this im sure someone would have done it already
@ellabellafull
No, they have not learned a damn thing. This has been going on for YEARS with the #fediverse. The recent influx might actually change that, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.
@mikemathia
@notroot @mikemathia Sad. Well, we became netizens fresh from decentralized BBSes and then the larger centralized dial-up communities before it turned into a mix of insulated yet service centralized like Geocities. We might know of the balance to strike and hopefully encourage others.
It's one thing to plant grass roots. But it's another to submit ALL to One Corporate Host.
Agreed. Also, I miss #BBSes
Those were the good ol' days.
@ellabellafull I joined for 5 min. Surely I didn't give it a chance, because it does sounds popular. But I personally feel as though I've just gotten off of one crazy bus and that initial entry to hive left me feeling like I was stepping into carnival. I'm in no position to critique any of these platforms. I also tried Counter Social for all of10 min. And I just find myself naturally gravitating back here. I just don't want to be in a rave right now
I do want reliable news sources and reporting.
@ellabellafull they've learned decentralization is a pain in the ass