Zoe @ekg@librem.one

@anthropy

I was a bit triggered, because I have seen so many people waste enormous amount of time arguing against things we can do literally nothing about.

Like windmill killing birds, or Russian gas keeping Europeans alive in the 2022/2023 winter.

Sorry, I failed to see that wasn't really what was going on here.

Forgive me for assuming, but I assume you read some article carelessly writing that BMW refused to sell their cars?, as they couldn't sell them as new.

@anthropy

I think I went a bit off focus.

Yes, the cars should go to auction. Most totalled cars are sold at auction, their exist no reason these cars should be any different.

Sorry for going off topic.

@anthropy dumping steal slag in the forest wouldn't be a numbers game, as the impact would be clear and demonstrable.

The marginal carbon emissions of producing, and scraping a few hundred cars is meaning less in comparison.

Their exist well regulated process for scrapping cars with minimal environmental impact. If the cars would be scrapped at some later time they would kill, and maim people before then.

@anthropy I don't make a habit of defending car companies.

This isn't really a fight worth fighting, less then one procent of cars are lost in transportation.

Venting frustration is fine and good. But a lot of effort is put into making sure that the real culprits of waste is obfuscatade.

Cars is a massive waste, their exist no reason to be mad at some going to the grave early. The resources was already wasted when it was decided to make a car.

@womble

I wasn't suggesting any connection, only emphasizing the importance of considering how technology interact with humans.

If you make security unnecessarily burdensome; some will forgo it all together.

@alchemistsstudio I am afraid to say it was my dad. I have moved out, and he has learnt to do better.

@tychotithonus when it comes to security; one of the most important questions to answer is: "how will people react to this?". People is almost always the weakest link in any security chain, that is why locks that are too good is bad.

Some cars are difficult enough to steal that robberies has been on the rise. If they can't break the lock, they will break the person.

@alchemistsstudio yeah I am definitely glad when I can do it.

But as you are suggesting that is not the common outcome.

Unfortunately people expressing microaggression correlate well with people I wouldn't want to challenge unnecessarily.

@alchemistsstudio I didn't know I was doing it for the longest time, because I didn't notice it. When I started to notice it I continued; as I knew it didn't cause to much problems.

I have slowly moved to acknowledge, and disregard:

"I know you're angry, and I don't know how to help you"

@alchemistsstudio I had some success with pretending not to notice.

@tychotithonus I am more worried that people lacking the skill will just give up. If people with marginal understanding believes that quantum computers will make the mitigation they now how to do irelevant; they might be demotivated to do what they can.

Of course that is an argument for education, but everyone can't be an expert.

@tychotithonus I think the iimportant difference of opinion is whatever or not quantum computers will ever be practical.

@shrew @bri_seven

Blitzscaling(1) is definitely a factor, but it's hardly a religion. I would describe it as regulatory arbitrage(2).

(1) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0007681319301478?via%3Dih

(2) https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/faculty_scholarship/2567/

@bri_seven

The closest I can think of hand is rokos basilisk

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roko%27s_basilisk

@ipg doesn't it unwrap the video as well?

@apophis @tisanae just looked it up my self. Would be very confused if I had been in that situation.

@tisanae @apophis nothing to be sorry about, unfortunately most distros aren't on the latest kernel. It's definitely possible that OP is running a kernel before support was merged.

@tisanae @apophis just pulled up menuconfig, not a word about it being experimental. Linux 6.15.4

@apophis yes, but it's Linux, you better check with who built your kernel.