When I buy a phone or computer, I should be able to install what software I want, from whatever sources I want, on it. My device, my risk.
I don't think that that should be a contentious policy position.
@neil when I buy a car I should be able to install any parts I want, my car my risk.
Their exist other people on the road, and on the Internet.
@ekg People's choice of OS doesn't affect other devices, without the active intervention of a malicious actor... either a third-party, or the user themselves... so that's a pretty bad comparison...
@WolvericCatkin you can say the same thing about most things on a car as well.
Allowing a mail server to spread malicious software isn't a good idea.
@ekg A mail server is a very different question to end-user devices... plus, once again that argument falls apart because that mail server is almost certainly going to be based on Linux or a BSD fork, which is the height of openness in software choice...
@WolvericCatkin their exist nothing preventing you from installing a mail server on a "end-user device".
Their exist nothing not open about installing a giant pole without a flag on a car as well.
@ekg Apple Silicon does a pretty good job of preventing people from installing a mail server on end-user devices...
@WolvericCatkin okay, how does Apple being shity change my argument? You as an owner should be responsible for what you install on your computer.
@ekg Yes, and that shouldn't prevent you from running what you like on it...
@WolvericCatkin the same way car manufacturers shouldn't prevent you from repairing, or modifying your car. My comparison is still looking pretty good.
@ekg @WolvericCatkin Ah, you're agreeing I should be able to take my car to MY mechanic! I thought you were arguing the opposite.
@bewilderbeast23 @WolvericCatkin well my comment was explicitly directed towards the idea that risk would only apply to the individual.
What ever you should be able to take your car to your mechanic should be completely unrelated to that.
I would go as far as to argue that the lack of available third party repairs is a great danger, regardless if we talk cars or computers. First party repair might not be available for a number of reasons, including cost or preference.
