@neil when I buy a car I should be able to install any parts I want, my car my risk.
Their exist other people on the road, and on the Internet.
@ekg People's choice of OS doesn't affect other devices, without the active intervention of a malicious actor... either a third-party, or the user themselves... so that's a pretty bad comparison...
@WolvericCatkin you can say the same thing about most things on a car as well.
Allowing a mail server to spread malicious software isn't a good idea.
@ekg A mail server is a very different question to end-user devices... plus, once again that argument falls apart because that mail server is almost certainly going to be based on Linux or a BSD fork, which is the height of openness in software choice...
@WolvericCatkin their exist nothing preventing you from installing a mail server on a "end-user device".
Their exist nothing not open about installing a giant pole without a flag on a car as well.
@ekg Apple Silicon does a pretty good job of preventing people from installing a mail server on end-user devices...
@WolvericCatkin okay, how does Apple being shity change my argument? You as an owner should be responsible for what you install on your computer.
@ekg Yes, and that shouldn't prevent you from running what you like on it...
@WolvericCatkin the same way car manufacturers shouldn't prevent you from repairing, or modifying your car. My comparison is still looking pretty good.
@ekg Your original post seemed to suggest people's software choices could directly hurt other people...
@WolvericCatkin yes, that is correct. People's choice of software could kill people.
@WolvericCatkin on phone or pc too. Their exist plenty of so called end-user devices in life critical settings.
@ekg
An extreme/contrived example: installing this third-party app on my phone prevented my partner from calling 911.
And if the answer to that is "the phone shouldn't let apps do that", then we've already established that there is a threshold by which the user should not be allowed to install certain apps.
@WolvericCatkin