While the Trump Team seems slightly more willing to murder random people (ie Mike Walz: “The first target – their top missile guy – we had positive ID of him walking into his girlfriend’s building and it’s now collapsed”), but the whole bombing Yemen thing is hardly a new policy. There’s not much daylight between what the Signal group chat is doing and what the Biden administration did.
Too many people are still smitten with the idea that the US state, or any state, can be a force for good if it’s just run by the right, good people in the right, good way, and that the state’s violence will only be used against bad people in the right, good way.
@HeavenlyPossum you do realise that a sate doesn't necessitate a global war on civilisation?
Their exist plenty of states that doesn't have the capacity for indiscriminate bombings against targets they don't like on the other side of the globe.
The foundational aspect of the state—any state—is violence.
@HeavenlyPossum I disagree. But I have been down this road before and knows it lead nowhere.
What would you call a higher order social structure that make civilisation possible, if you don't call it a state?
If you expect this to lead nowhere, then don’t engage me about it.
@HeavenlyPossum I am sorry if I was unclear, I meant I don't think a debate on whatever a stat is violence or not is meaning full.
I can still be curious what your perspective is on state on the higher order social organisation that make morden living possible.
The state is one social form out of many. It is a mechanism of elite rule and exploitation, fundamentally through the monopolization of violence. It’s not necessary for anything—“civilization” or “modernity” or whatever you want to call it.
@HeavenlyPossum okay, you have a narrow view of what a state is.
And I agree, it's fundamentally wrong to force anyone to live in a social order they don't agree to.
I define a state by what enables a civilisation, meaning it is literally what is necessary for for civilisation.
@ekg @HeavenlyPossum “I choose to define terms based on my own imagination, therefore *you* are using the terms wrong.”
Let us know when you are able to travel between countries without armed police deciding whether you’re allowed to.
@Moss @HeavenlyPossum I never said anything of the sort. I said I mean something else by the same word. And yes that happens all the time while traveling.
