@gmate8 😂 I am also kind of with you there. I use Linux Mint Cinnamon because I just want something that is familiar and works out-of-the-box. I make very few changes, if any at all. (I still use the default wallpaper! 😄)

@sudo i use manjaro but nowadays it's bad
Zorin is better imo

@gmate8 I agree. Zorin is spectacular. I haven't really used it myself but I really like their marketing and the way they have positioned themselves as a distribution.

@Suiseiseki It's relatively more open source than what most people use while still being easily accessible.

https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/support-the-freedom-ladder-campaign-lessons-we-learned-so-far-and-whats-next

@sudo I have no idea what "It's relatively more open source than what most people use" is meant to mean.
If you go by the OSI's definition, Linux isn't "open source", as it doesn't meet requirement 2, which is:
"The program must include source code, and must allow distribution in source code as well as compiled form. Where some form of a product is not distributed with source code, there must be a well-publicized means of obtaining the source code for no more than a reasonable reproduction cost, preferably downloading via the Internet without charge. The source code must be the preferred form in which a programmer would modify the program. Deliberately obfuscated source code is not allowed. Intermediate forms such as the output of a preprocessor or translator are not allowed."

Installing a proprietary version of Linux with GNU is a step up from windows or macos, but from what I have seen, people who do that typically don't proceed to take more steps up the ladder.

@may I don't really know much about PHP development. As for Python, which is what I use, I have to admit that Windows probably provides a better experience.

On Linux, one of the most common issues is that it is very hard to get a 'specific version' of Python that isn't in your distro's repository. This is compounded by the fact that a lot of distros don't provide the latest packages.

Hopefully, this gets better with tools like Toolbox and Distrobox though.

@sudo With PHP is it same but you can easily to use docker to manage multiple versions of PHP (this is what i'm doing) and here was problem with PHPStorm - it was extremly slow (almost 10 minutes vs few seconds on linux).

There was also some quirks and i needed tweak php.ini config on my windows to make my app behave like on linuyx, with linux (i using Fedora) you have ready to use out-of-box

@may That is an interesting solution! I believe Distrobox and/or Toolbox uses Docker under the hood but I didn't think of using Docker itself in that way. I have to see if I can do something similar for Python.