trisimiton @trisimiton@librem.one
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Yes.
You do not have in american law the right to deny business for arbitrary reasons. For example, you cannot deny business to someone because they are black, gay, or jewish.
I think it is entirely reasonable for internet nazis to protest being denied business if there is already law on the books that prevents businesses from denying service.
They should call up their congressman and ask them to pass antidiscriminatory laws which will protect them from such practices. This is how democracy works.
We will see if any congressman will champion and pass a law preventing discrimination of people who support "holocaust revisionism". I think there is some nonzero chance, but I doubt internet nazis will so mobilize.
In the end, although usually business freedom does win out, there are some instances where the people do have a stronger freedom. The mechanism for gaining privileges for the people at the expense of private business is the legal system.
It's a balance of a sort, and admittedly it's rather far in favor of private companies, but it's not something that is entirely one-sided. People can force companies to accept them, and it is nothing new. It is a matter of if congress in our democracy would pass such a law. There is currently no such law on the books (IANAL).
Yes.
You do not have in american law the right to deny business for arbitrary reasons. For example, you cannot deny business to someone because they are black, gay, or jewish.
I think it is entirely reasonable for internet nazis to protest being denied business if there is already law on the books that prevents businesses from denying service.
They should call up their congressman and ask them to pass antidiscriminatory laws which will protect them from such practices. This is how democracy works.
We will see if any congressman will champion and pass a law preventing discrimination of people who support "holocaust revisionism". I think there is some nonzero chance, but I doubt internet nazis will so mobilize.
In the end, although usually business freedom does win out, there are some instances where the people do have a stronger freedom. The mechanism for gaining privileges for the people at the expense of private business is the legal system.
It's a balance of a sort, and admittedly it's rather far in favor of private companies, but it's not something that is entirely one-sided. People can force companies to accept them, and it is nothing new. It is a matter of if congress in our democracy would pass such a law. There is currently no such law on the books (IANAL).
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That's not quite right. The private company which supplies my water is legally prohibited from turning off my water if I for example call its CEO fat.
That is a type of freedom afforded to the people. However, private entrepreneurs also have freedom. This is simply a case of business freedom being considered more important than personal freedom.
And I don't have a problem with that, but it's not true what you wrote that it is the opposite of freedom. It is in fact, a conflict of the freedoms of two parties, and the business's freedom is considered under american law to be the dominant one. This is not the case for public utilities, where the business's freedom is subordinate to the consumer's.
I think that's fine. Still, it is very much a capitalist position, and we should acknowledge it as such.
That's not quite right. The private company which supplies my water is legally prohibited from turning off my water if I for example call its CEO fat.
That is a type of freedom afforded to the people. However, private entrepreneurs also have freedom. This is simply a case of business freedom being considered more important than personal freedom.
And I don't have a problem with that, but it's not true what you wrote that it is the opposite of freedom. It is in fact, a conflict of the freedoms of two parties, and the business's freedom is considered under american law to be the dominant one. This is not the case for public utilities, where the business's freedom is subordinate to the consumer's.
I think that's fine. Still, it is very much a capitalist position, and we should acknowledge it as such.
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