Zoe @ekg@librem.one

@Qanno I agree but one thing. Engineers didn't come up with AI Art, just the tool artists use to produce AI Art.

It's not art until it has assigned meaning, only humans can do that.

This of course doesn't preclude an engineer from doing that, just that they do that outside the work of engineering.

@Qanno fair enough. yeah, it sucks when people try to free ride on qualified work when they do not possess the skills or knowledge necessary to produce said work.

It's just a bit to easy to blame the tools sometimes.

I should also add that it also sucks when people who do possess the necessary skills and knowledge steel others work, it's just less apparent.

@sima a small grace at least.

@sima yeah, I honestly thought they pre-boiled them, like instant pasta. Maybe I was wrong.

@sima is it the pre-boiled nonsense?

@bojacobs @nuclearhumanities @sts and people think we should stop using nuclear power. Madness I say nuclear power is a necessary byproduct of making the artifact for which we will be remembered, not using that power would be an absolute waste.

@Qanno as long as they do a qualified job at curating the output of the tool, big if I know, I think they are in the right. AI is a tool like any other, used well it can be art.

@ownlife We can't solve abuse. If someones intent is to hurt you you have little choice but exclude them from your life.

If you are up for it you can also tackle the issue head on, it's okay to hurt abusers.

@ownlife people that don't are usually afraid of the consequences, real or imagined, if they do.

@ownlife that won't happen unless people feel safe to share. If people are afraid to be seen as childish they won't say what they truly feel.

@RiotGrlErin Doesn't Netflix already have a watch again category?

@ownlife yeah. In my experience those toxic traits stems from a desire to be taken "seriously", a desire for others to behave more "grown-up".

@ownlife the most grown-up you can be is daring to be childish. In my experience its the attempt to behave like a "grown-up" that is the most destructive.

@rachelwilliams My current understanding is that quantum computers removes at best one power, that would be power ten or equivalent to a doubling every decade or so. Quantum computers has huge effect at power two where they can turn the scaling linear.

Regardless its a huge engineering effort.

@rachelwilliams The main problem I have with these kinds of models is that they scale terribly. My under standing is they scale at power 11, meaning that doubling in performance would require 2000 times the compute. If that is remotely true it would take about two decades for every doubling of performance. Considering that what the models are capable of is improving at a moderate pace, even with evergrater resources, it doesn't seem unreasonable that it might be true.

@trashrobot@kolektiva.social Yeah, pretty close to hitting the nail on the head with that one. How we (should) commoditize value is probably one of the biggest unsolved problems of our times.

@tooheymatthew shouldn't. Jokes are best not understood.