@HeavenlyPossum okay, you have a narrow view of what a state is.
And I agree, it's fundamentally wrong to force anyone to live in a social order they don't agree to.
I define a state by what enables a civilisation, meaning it is literally what is necessary for for civilisation.
@neonsnake @HeavenlyPossum no.
I said that the specific violence reference is not universal. And only a select few state has the capacity for that kind of violence.
Me saying that a debate on whatever a state necessary means violence is me ending that debate before asking an related question to the topic.
@HeavenlyPossum I am sorry if I was unclear, I meant I don't think a debate on whatever a stat is violence or not is meaning full.
I can still be curious what your perspective is on state on the higher order social organisation that make morden living possible.
@HeavenlyPossum I disagree. But I have been down this road before and knows it lead nowhere.
What would you call a higher order social structure that make civilisation possible, if you don't call it a state?
@HeavenlyPossum you do realise that a sate doesn't necessitate a global war on civilisation?
Their exist plenty of states that doesn't have the capacity for indiscriminate bombings against targets they don't like on the other side of the globe.
I can't decide of Trump does or doesn't realise that without USA backing we in Europe has to be able to meet Russian aggression on our own. If we in Europe could meet Russian aggression, we would have no reason to tolerate their continued existence.
As far as I can tell without the US guarantee, it is a matter of time before Europe decided it's cheaper to eliminate the enemy on the border. Then maintaining the capacity to do so in the future.
@halva yeep
@halva I was thinking encryption over hdmi, don't remember what it's called know.
@ai6yr AI is the ceo in an increasing number of companies. That is one of does passive income scams people are running.
@bert_hubert remember this was the deal. We give the us our data, they give us tanks.
@Nerd2PointO remember they are lending you to make revenue, not prevent losses. Unless you pay interest, you are worthless to them.
@Lana I don't think they want to acknowledge that the nazis tried the same thing, because then they would admit that it didn't/won't work.
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