Zoe @ekg@librem.one

@mrsbeanbag Sweden also had a strange interpretation of the rights of indigenous people, and therefore fought to not have the sami recognition as such. The Swedish states treatment of the sami would be shocking, unless it was for every other western government treatment of their's indigenous people. Compared to other countries Swedens treatment of the sami is nothing but exemplary.

@mrsbeanbag one of the rights listed is the childs right to access the parents religion and culture, also the right for the child to know their parents and ancestors. This somehow got interpreted in Stockholm as taking away the states abilities to protect children from abuse, thankfully they have reconsidered that interpretation.

@mrsbeanbag I appreciate that, but I am as much interested in the artifact as its content.

@mrsbeanbag technically speaking the Jehovas Witness aren't banned, and they do have an qusai independent organisation in Sweden. But yes the Swedish state is incredibly aggressive when it comes to baning organisation that carries a perceived threat to children. To the point that Sweden for a long time refused to sign the UN charter on the rights of the child, arguing it limited its ability to protect children from their parents.

@mrsbeanbag thank you for the recommendation, unfortunately I seem to have an mission and a half to get my hands on a copy.

@mrsbeanbag if remember correctly. The Watch Tower Society got banned in Sweden, because they encourage their members to take their kids out of the public school system, leading them to ask the church of Sweden for support. The church of Sweden answered them in an open letter telling them not only did they support public education, they established the public school system in Sweden.

@mrsbeanbag that's hilarious, and surprisingly on brand.

@mrsbeanbag church of Sweden, if you are interested in looking them up on your own. It's neo-Catholic, and arguably satanic, at least if you as The Watch Tower Society.

@mrsbeanbag well technically they said Jesus. And yes incredibly liberal, they are even removing Christian symbols to be more inclusive.

@mrsbeanbag "the entire bible unaided [...] translated literally from the original tongues, and was published in 1876" - Wikipedia, what the fuck. That sounds unplausible.

@mrsbeanbag I want to point out that I grew up in Sweden, in a less then religious family. What I remember from church was that we are all crated in the image of God, so be careful you never know who really is God. And that everyone have their own relationship with God, and being encourage to develop that relationship on my own terms.

@mrsbeanbag after skimming the Wikipedia page, I am shocked shocked I tell you that a morden English language bible isn't based on king James, I guess I still belive some of the misinformation taught by the YouTube Atheists.

@mrsbeanbag the Atheist community on YouTube is thankfully dead now, but it was an misinformation engine. I spent way to much time consuming that uncritically.

What is NIV referring to, might be worth reading about.

@mrsbeanbag I imagine it doesn't help most English speaker accept The King James version uncritically. In Sweden the most recent translation is from this millennium, not that I know if that helps. I have actually never read the Bible, not in hole at least. My most recent experience is YouTube Atheist reading select passages with their unique interpretation, if you remember thats era of YouTube you know what I mean.

@mrsbeanbag I like the description of the Bible as an tabloid, I think that is an fair assessment of the amount of trust to place in its words.